MH17偏离固定航线！飞越WAR ZONE！

Cod_XIII

对比7月14日MH17航线图，发现17日空难MH17偏移了固定航线！

马航MH17原定航线中，飞机在由波兰进入乌克兰境内后，将转向东南方，飞经局势稳定的乌克兰西部地区和已经被俄国占领的克里米亚地区，最终从刻赤海峡附近飞离乌克兰。7月17日当天，MH17航班在波兰中部将既定航线向北调整，随后飞入乌克兰中部地区，最终在乌东部顿涅茨克上空被击落。其飞行轨迹较原定航线偏离上百公里。



可见在波兰境内飞机航线出现了明显偏离




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http://news.pchome.com.tw/internation/rusnews/20140708/index-14048189853308265011.html

俄新網RUSNEWS.CN基輔7月8日電 烏克蘭“商業信息聯盟”新聞社周二報道，烏克蘭國家航空局對民航飛機關閉東部地區特別行動區的領空。

上周末民兵不得不從斯拉維揚斯克、克拉馬托爾斯克、阿特米夫斯克和德魯日基夫卡向頓涅茨克和盧甘斯克方向撤退，他們說這樣做的目的是使戰火遠離平民。根據科瓦利的聲明，頓涅茨克和盧甘斯克將遭到包圍，以迫使民兵投降。

該新聞社引述這個部門的消息稱：“為了保証飛行安全的應有水平，對所有民航飛機的飛行關閉領空。國家航空局已經下達相關禁令。”

國家航空局指出，只有局勢徹底穩定後才能恢複在該地區的飛行。

基輔政府從4月開始在烏克蘭東部發動特別行動，以鎮壓該地不滿國家政變的居民。莫斯科稱這一導致交戰雙方和平民眾多傷亡的特別行動是討伐行動，呼籲基輔立即停止這一行動。

http://rusnews.cn/guojiyaowen/guoji_cis/20140708/44111767.html

Cod_XIII

MH17航班在规划阿姆斯特丹——吉隆坡航线时穿过了乌克兰东南部，即顿涅茨克地区


MH17航班的最后轨迹



乌克兰东部上空的民航客机飞行实时图


通过前几天MH17航班的航线与今天被击落时的航线对比，可见被击落时MH17航班的航线比通常航线更加靠北，约在通常航线北方上百公里处，MH17航班确实穿过已被乌克兰国家民航局划为民航飞行禁区的顿涅茨克地区，而该区域显然是在乌克兰的民航飞行管制区之内。有乌克兰民航局的禁令在前，乌克兰的空管人员显然不会允许MH17航班穿越该禁区。排除乌克兰空管人员因素，唯一的可能性就是MH17航班的机长不顾空管人员的指挥不从黑海或者北部绕道，坚持穿过顿涅茨克地区飞行，从而被防空导弹所击落。


基于目前所披露出来的信息，大致推测MH17事件经过如下：

7月17日，马航MH17航班预计于中午12点起飞，执行阿姆斯特丹到吉隆坡的航线。计划将在第二天早上六点抵达吉隆坡。在延误了14分钟之后于当地时间12点14分起飞。随后MH17航班沿着既定航线飞入了乌克兰境内，进入了乌克兰飞行管制区。

然而，出于尚未得知的原因，MH17航班的机长不顾乌克兰民航当局于10天前发布的关于乌克兰东部民航飞行禁令，飞跃了被划为民航禁区且正在交战中的顿涅茨克地区。当接近俄乌边境时，被可能是乌克兰军方发射的SA-12导弹所击落，机上295人全部遇难。

wlwl

如果马航没严重看待这警告，那就大条了，会赔钱赔到破产！

motor6620

我知道大家喜欢看别人扑街，或者说我们自己扑街的新闻，但是988的新闻说国际民航组织并没有把该区列为禁飞区。

Cod_XIII

EASA 欧盟安全飞行联盟在4月3日就与联合国ICOA发布正式通告，警告乌克兰冲突地区空域的交战严重威胁民航机安全

Earlier this year, UN aviation agency ICAO insisted that the right to provide air navigation services in international airspace over the Black Sea within Simferopol flight information region belonged exclusively to Ukraine.

On April 3 European Aviation Safety Agency issued a safety bulletin – accompanied by recommendations from both ICAO and Eurocontrol which oversees the regional aviation network – that airspace controlled by the Simferopol FIR should be avoided as more than one air traffic control agency controlling flights within the same airspace could have serious safety implications.

http://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/2014-10

http://www.airtrafficmanagement. ... contested-airpsace/


Based on the latest Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) published by the Ukrainian authorities, the routes indicated are not available for flight planning


FlightRadar24 data showing diversions around Ukrainian airspace at 18.47 GMT

johannalee82

当事情发生，每个国家的人民都会团结起来对抗外敌
只有马来西亚人恨不得自己的国家快点死。。。。

话说。。。如果是不安全的话，他们是不会批准航线的
而且这是和 KLM 的 shared flight,如果有错， KLM 也有错吗？

motor6620

吊鸡白LZ！

ICAO recently issued a State letter advising States and their air operators of a potentially unsafe situation arising from the presence of more than one air traffic services provider in the Simferopol Flight Information Region (FIR). The loss of MH17 occurred outside of the Simferopol FIR and ICAO stands ready to support the accident investigation upon request.

http://www.icao.int/Newsroom/Pag ... es-Flight-MH17.aspx

johannalee82

motor6620 发表于 18-7-2014 06:40 AM
我知道大家喜欢看别人扑街，或者说我们自己扑街的新闻，但是988的新闻说国际民航组织并没有把该区列为禁飞区 ...

就是有些放弃治疗的网民喜欢唯恐天下不乱，散播不实的传言
总之是要看自己的国家死他们就会爽

motor6620

johannalee82 发表于 18-7-2014 07:04 AM
就是有些放弃治疗的网民喜欢唯恐天下不乱，散播不实的传言
总之是要看自己的国家死他们就会爽

LZ如果知道自己在散发不实消息就最好识趣delete掉这个post，不然大家是华人都支持警察对LZ采取法律行动！

nyluon

你覺得機長會拿自己的命來開玩笑嗎？又不是穿越戰區就會成爲民族英雄之類的，他干嘛要那麽做？

motor6620

不等LZ咯，直接按报告让BZ做工。就让BZ去check ICAO的官网。

ccj61

johannalee82 发表于 18-7-2014 07:04 AM
就是有些放弃治疗的网民喜欢唯恐天下不乱，散播不实的传言
总之是要看自己的国家死他们就会爽

那些人就是死民连支持者, 不分轻重

Cod_XIII

motor6620 发表于 18-7-2014 07:03 AM
吊鸡白LZ！

ICAO recently issued a State letter advising States and their air operators of a poten ...

more than one air traffic services provider in the Simferopol Flight Information Region (FIR).

Cod_XIII

Europe safety agency urges airlines to avoid Crimean airspace
BERLIN | Thu Apr 3, 2014 2:05pm EDT
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BERLIN (Reuters) - Europe's aviation safety authority warned on Thursday of "serious risks" for international airlines flying over Crimea because there may be two services managing airspace there after the region's annexation by Russia.

The European Aviation Safety Agency said Russia had published a series of notices saying it intended to provide air traffic services within the area controlled by the flight information center at Simferopol, Crimea's main airport.

EASA, which is based in Germany, therefore said national aviation authorities in Europe should encourage carriers to avoid the airspace over Crimea, which Russia seized from Ukraine last month, and use alternative routes.

"It is unsafe if more than one Air Traffic Service provider is in charge of one single Flight Information Region (FIR); no compromise can be made with the safety of the flying passengers," Patrick Ky, executive director at EASA, said.

Eurocontrol, the European air traffic management agency, said it strongly advised carriers against flying through the region, known as Simferopol FIR, and published a map of alternative routes.

Separately, Ukraine's interim government, installed after mass protests toppled pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovich in February, has reported that it can no longer deliver mail to Crimea, according to the U.N. Universal Postal Union.

A UPU spokesman said a message from Ukrainian postal operator Ukrposhta sent late last month stated that it was experiencing "difficulties" in getting any kind of postal item to the regional capital Sevastopol and other parts of Crimea.

Until Russian troops took over Crimea last month and closed Simferopol airport to flights from mainland Ukraine, most foreign and domestic mail for the peninsula and its majority Russian population was flown in from Ukraine's capital Kiev.

(Reporting by Michelle Martin and Victoria Bryan in Frankfurt and Robert Evans in Geneva, editing by Mark Heinrich)

motor6620

Cod_XIII 发表于 18-7-2014 07:39 AM
more than one air traffic services provider in the Simferopol Flight Information Region (FIR).

你看不到我highlight的outside吗？

gundamwing

所以所有事情都还没结论了？

Cod_XIII

gundamwing 发表于 18-7-2014 07:44 AM
所以所有事情都还没结论了？

现在是各种猜测

Cod_XIII

motor6620 发表于 18-7-2014 07:44 AM
你看不到我highlight的outside吗？

loss=坠毁地点 or 被击中地点

motor6620

Cod_XIII 发表于 18-7-2014 07:51 AM
loss=坠毁地点 or 被击中地点

如果你要看ICAO的官网（我attach的LINK)，有华文版的pdf文稿，里面的翻译是失事地点。你觉得是击中还是坠毁？

Cod_XIII

motor6620 发表于 18-7-2014 08:00 AM
如果你要看ICAO的官网（我attach的LINK)，有华文版的pdf文稿，里面的翻译是失事地点。你觉得是击中还是坠 ...

自己去比对航线和乌克兰禁飞区